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Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed

I recently saw "Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed" for the first time.

I spent the entire movie being alternately appalled, mad, sad, and/or expecting lightning to strike the speaker at any moment.

If you haven't seen this movie, it is a must see!

One of the interesting bits was that the scientists often relied on the old "Some People Are Just Not Intelligent Enough To Understand" argument.

This made me laugh because whenever I have had an unpopular opinion in a debate, I often see, after frustration on the part of the "other side", the same old argument. "Well, you are just ignorant/need to do more research/don't have a scientific mind/are an idiot/etc."

This movie made clear to me the trend that dissent or holding a view that is not politically correct is not well tolerated. I see over and over again that folks get down right mad and will try their best, through intimidation or insults, to shut you up if an opinion is stated that is not the popularly held one.

I wonder why this is. It seems to me that we ought to be aware and even expect that there are plenty of people in this world with plenty of ideas that might not match our own. Just because they speak these things aloud or write them, doesn't invalidate our own differently held positions. It also doesn't necessarily mean they (or we) are stupid or ignorant.

Have you seen the movie "Expelled"? What did you think?

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  1. I really enjoyed it. I like that he was willing to speak up and challenge others. It IS sad that everyone is so afraid of causing trouble by having a different opinion than the norm. After all, it took someone with a different opinion to be brave and speak up to end slavery! I think people are also afraid of being proven wrong or having reason to change their lifestyle or beliefs…better to just make the “troublemakers” hush up 😛

  2. I watched it when it was released. I can’t remember exactly what it was, but there were some moments where I felt like Stein dropped the ball. Perhaps there was a little too much disdain for outright Creationism, as if he’d be perfectly willing to see *that* excluded in this way, as long as ID (i.e. compromise) gets its fair shot? I can’t remember for sure why that was my impression. I’ll have to rewatch it. Anybody else get that vibe? His overall point was a good one, though, and overall it was a good documentary.

  3. Also, I’d like to state for the record that it drives me nuts that I just used the word “overall” twice in one sentence.

  4. My husband and I bought it and have shared it with many others. Bottom line… educate our children the very best we can in a way where they’re not afraid or intimidated in presenting facts and ideas to others confidently as a challenge. American’s main problem now: we have no absolute standard. Apart from govornmental law, we have no absolute standard as a country. We have cast God out and can’t go back, with the exception of the privacy of our homes. Until the day where they ban home education, we’ll be okay. After that, “Come Lord Jesus!”

    • Hear. Hear. Great points Kelli! We must teach our children to stand, even if they are standing alone . . . ultimately that is NOT going to be comfortable, NOR win you ANY popularity contests, but it’s still the right thing to do!

  5. I thought it was a good film. Mr. Stein is not a Christian but is at least opening up the door a crack so people can see that believing in something other than evolution does not mean one is a lunatic. The part where he visited the Holocaust museum was particularly moving. I will also always remember Mr. Dawkins answer when he asked him what he would do if he died and really did stand before God.

  6. It’s a favorite here. My husband and I watched it together. He is a public school teacher but says that our children will never attend public school.

    • Tabitha, that is almost exactly our situation! My husband is a teacher, but we are homeschooling our children.

      • You probably get the same crazy looks we do, Liz. Those who do not know us will ask, “So, what does your husband do?”

        “He’s a school teacher.”

        Silence. “But I thought you homeschooled.”


  7. When I watched it, I was also busy managing a 12 month old, so… I’m sure a lot got by me. But I remember thinking it was well done and it did make me mad to think about the mass rejection and outright sabotage of anyone in the scientific community (or education community) that dared express support for ID or Creationism.
    In my opinion, you just follow the money. Same with climate change stuff. The science world is driven by research dollars and there is competition for that money and all the recognition, etc. that comes with making discoveries. It is a line of work easily leading to vanity and pride and elitism. Making “discoveries” or supporting ID would not make anyone any money and would seemingly shut down many areas of research (like origin study and certain evolutionary studies).

  8. this DVD is fantastic! In the Science world they should never stop questioning and those that do question are being pushed out. why is that? What is it the pushers are afraid of? It’s already been proven the pushers cannot prove their theories. So why have they stopped questioning?
    I haven’t bought this DVD yet, but I will. It will become part of our collection. I don’t want my kids to ever stop questioning. this means they’re thinking.

  9. It’s one of the best documentaries I’ve ever seen. I’m boring and like to watch those types of movies for fun. LOL
    It left me feeling flabbergasted and a bit mad.
    Just another great reason to homeschool. 😉

  10. I haven’t seen this movie, but it looks like I should. However, whenever I see anything on the news (Fox, of course!), it makes me so mad how people can’t see how children are negatively impacted by public schools. And it makes me sad that some of my friends have their children in public schools. But it makes me laugh when I hear public school teachers say that their children will never go to public school.

    Anyway, I’ll have to keep an eye out for this movie.

  11. We saw it four or five years ago – I thought it was fantastic! I ran up against some very anti-God professors in college, and one who told the entire classroom that the reason for our education was to make us no longer see anything in terms of right or wrong, and that if we still believed in God by the time we graduated we would have to be idiots. Yes indeed! Just sad. My favorite part of that movie was the life randomly forming on the backs of crystals – um, wha….??

  12. I am about halfway through this movie and I’m enjoying it so far. I think I need to watch it again and take notes on some of the science parts though :) It really shocked me that people could be totally blackballed from any scientific job just because of one thing they said or published. As my husband (who has a Master’s degree in physics) pointed out, the whole point of publishing papers in science journals is so that others can replicate the experiment. Then if they get totally different results from you, you can reconsider, check your variables and try to figure out where the problem is. And gradually the scientific community progresses in knowledge. But if people are completely discounted for a political/worldview/bogus reason, that progress is stunted. Freedom of speech and information is absolutely critical to the scientific process.

    I really appreciated the point Mr Stein made about how our knowledge of the cell’s structure and function has grown so much compared to Darwin’s day. It’s as if Darwin raised some important questions, but given what is known now, his conclusions are demonstrably inadequate.